AMD recently launched their new B450 chipset for the Ryzen 2 CPUs. I’ve got the MSI B450 Tomahawk motherboard here, so let’s take a look at all the features and help you decide if it’s worth buying for your PC.
US Pricing: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144189&cm_re=MSI_B450_Tomahawk-_-13-144-189-_-Product
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Hey, i want to build a system with this MoBo:
Ryzen 7 1800X (Was as cheap as 2600)
1080 Ti Gaming X (Got it cheap as well :D)
16 GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance (3000 MHz)
500 W be quiet Pure Power 11
be quiet Shadow Rock 2
500 GB MX 500
What do you think.. is this Motherboard ok for that system.. and is that system unbalanced or something?
Is it compatible with :
- AMD Ryzen 5 2600
- Samsung 8 GB RAM DDR4 (2400MHz)
- Sapphire Radeon RX 590 Nitro Plus 8 GB DDR5 Special Edition
- Samsung B850 Pro Sata 3 256 GB SSD
- Seagate Barracuda 35 1 TB Hardisk
- Be Quiet System Power U9 500W 80 Plus
Thats for the main components after every gtg ill be getting a water cooler with a 240mm fan and get some extra 120mm fan. The pc case im getting have 2 built in fans front and back. Thats it man have a good one. Will be upgrading in the near future from mu build.
+Juan Hernandez well after the tomahawk arrives next is my. 550 power supply then the hyper fury x 1x8 ram 3000mhz. I cant find a 2x8 for that so I'lI be purchasing 2 of those. For my boot drive im getting a 250gb ssd, and a 1tb hdd for storage.
@Grant Hudson sup bro, I'm getting ready to start buying the parts for my first pc build and I'm actually using the same cpu and mobo. I was wondering how the rest of your build looks like and curious what gpu your going with?
Ok i want to build a gaming pc lez me know your thougts.
Ryzen 7 2700x
Msi b450 tomahawk
Msi rtx 2080 ventus
2x samsung evo 860 500gb cuz i already had them
Be quiet pure power 11 600w cm
Gskill aegis 16gb 3000mhz
Fractal design meshify c
Sounds pretty decent to me! I imagine some people will say you need a high end intel CPU for the 2080 but I think the 2700X is a great option especially if you need more cores without going to 9700k/9900k money.
You can look at the product page, there will be a support tab or similar and you should be able to find the QVL for supported memory, you can look at the specific model numbers of memory to see what they have tested with if you want confirmation that the memory is known to work well with the board.
Saved up to build my first gaming rig.
Wish me luck and let me know how well you'll think it'll perform(still waiting on parts, specifically the RAM. Curse you Newegg for having DHL handle that package):
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor
MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard
G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS Black Edition OC+ Video Card
Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
@Nehoy Menoy sup bro, I'm a first time pc builder and I'm ready to start buying my parts and it's pretty much similar to your build except I was going with the red dragon rx 580 8gb but after reading about your gpu it seems maybe I should go your route...building a rig can be nerve wracking lol. How much did you spend on your rig if you dont mind me asking?
+Nehoy Meɴoy Hey thank you so much for your answer. After hours of searching, I think I'll buy the Tomahawk, I was lookin for other MOB like the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F but in a video comparison says that these have an elevate VMR temp... so Finally decided for the best price/quality MOB. For now Im not planning in OC until I have a good watercooling. And I think the Ryzen 5 2600 works well in straming so... I'll get the same build as yours, again thank you so much!
@Stefano Rossoni It's okay, your English is better than most Americans... Haha.
B450 Tomahawk works well. Really well, especially for the price it's going for, it's a bargain. I haven't had any issues. I put the PC together and it turned on first try.
I got my AMD Ryzen 5 from Amazon for a discount under listing "AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler - YD2600BBAFBOX" and it runs great for its price. I'm not trying to overclock my rig, I just wanted it to play today's modern games well and this processor and graphics card does that and more. If I ever do decide to overclock, this rig could do just that.
Btw, buying the Ryzen 5 and Radeon RX 580 granted me free keys for The Division 2 and Resident Evil 2. I've been playing the remake Resident Evil 2 at MAX 1080P and have seen not one bit of lag, smooth as butt cheeks.
The AMD Ryzen 5 2600, so far, has reached 40% max of usage when monitoring it while playing Subnautica 1080P MAX settings while also multi-tasking through other installed programs on my computer.
My GPU handles Subnautica MAX at 1080P no problem, whereas my laptop with the mobile GTX 1060 could not handle much, for some reason even with latest drivers I still had to tweak Subnautica's settings to run decent and even then it'd spike occasionally. I haven't had the chance to properly benchmark my computer yet, though, there's still tests I plan on doing.
The Radeon RX 580 Black Edition that I have was discounted at the time and it runs better than my GTX1060 that's in my Apache Pro, granted that's a laptop , it outperforms it in every way... unsurprisingly. And this rig I built myself costs 500$ cheaper than the Apache Pro laptop.
As for the RAM, I only have 16GB of RAM. Honestly, if you didn't plan on multi-tasking and just gaming, 8GB of RAM would be fine but 16GB would ensure you could game and multi-task. The Tomahawk doesn't hinder the ability of random memory being accessed, everything runs smooth. The B450's restrictions do not hinder it from becoming a great rig.
BTW, I got my Windows 10 Pro buying a 5$ key off EBAY.
So, it's all your decision. If the Radeon RX580 would be cheaper for you to buy in your country than the GTX 1060, I definitely recommend the RX580. Like you said, the benchmarks for both graphics cards are too close for it to matter. The mobile version of the 1060 is in my laptop, it should perform so much better as a full sized card inside a desktop.
Let me know if you have any more questions, I'll try to answer them the best I can.
I need some help idk why this mobo is showing that the cpu is not detected( with the EZ led debug ) and I've tried many different things and at this point I gonna have to buy a b350 soo idk if someone knows how to fix this please let me know thank u.
+Jarrod'sTech I have 2 graphic cards i Think GTX 1050 TI 4GB + gt 730 4gb Is good deal because 2 graphic Cards ... Yeah i know the same price Are GTX 1060 6 GB ... But i have those cards in home ... And i don't want sell thi's cards because i love thi's cards xD ... But thanks for Backup ...
Joshua Dont buy it bro it seems nice outside with all those rgb fans but from inside is nothing but worthless shit because case is made from cheap metal and the biggest problem its poor air flow whats really important and there is not so much space in the case to upgrade it I would rether recommend you NZXT H500 (black/red) pc case it looks dangerous although it doesn’t have any rgb fans installed but you can buy few rgb fans they are not expensive I think 3 decent rgb fans are around 40$-50$ not more but most important case has great air flow for the price and it also has much space to upgrade even if it’s mid tower but it’s perfectly made and yeah only one bad thing on NZXT it doesn’t have optical drive but today person don’t need optical drive all games are on steam or you need to buy key or download it so it want make any gaming problem and also today you can watch movies on Netflix or on Amazon so it’s really not needed
So I purchased this motherboard and a AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler, has anyone built this? I read that the cooler might be too big and block where the RAM plugs in. Just curious if anyone knows anything about this or if I read some misinformation. Thanks!
+Jarrod'sTech Thats a relief to hear, thank you! It will be a couple weeks when I finish the build but ill post a confirmation that it doesnt block anything so if anyone else read that information they can know!
Hello guys got a question for you. I'm gonna build a gaming PC in March and I will be using this motherboard with a ryzen 5 2600 and G.Skill Trident-Z 16gb 3200mhz ram.. Will my ram run at 3200mhz without overclocking it? Or shall I buy 2666mhz of ram? I will gladly appreciate any replies. Thank you !
+Jarrod'sTech it's running like a dream (a really fast dream!)
I can play overwatch in 1920x1200 at about 50fps on high, 60+ on low , so for streaming that's great! It also handles the voltage fantastically and the bios were easy peasy to set up. Great board!
m s im not sure but there is a new amd gpu coming in January which will be the top gpu so maybe you should wait for that but im choosing rx 570 because it does what i need it to do and i dont need it for anything else if you want to play top games requiring top gpus then probably you should
+Jarrod'sTech Can you tell me if the parts in my build are decent for an 800€ build
Case: NZXT S340 Elite - €97
Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk - €109
GPU: MSI RX570 Armor OC - €170
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 - €158
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8 3000mhz - €130
PSU: Corsair 400w - €50
SSD: Kingston 120GB - €22
HDD: WD Blue 1TB - €46
Fans included with case
Monitor: Acer KG241 (75Hz)
I'm gonna be buying these parts probably tomorrow so can you reply if possible?
Um... should i be woried? I just bought msi b450 tomahawk, and theres some problems..... first of all i didnt get the manual with it. It came in a different plastic bag. And i can’t put the amd ryzen 5 2600 coller with amd logo next to the big tomahawk heatsink, because it doeasnt fit.
Oh 😰 might be able to take the board to a local computer repair place and ask to borrow a gen 1 CPU for the update. Otherwise are you connecting your monitor to the motherboard, or a graphics card in the PCIe slot? If you're using the motherboard you will get no signal as the CPU doesn't have graphics like an APU.
Probably, but you can check the QVL to see if they have tested with that specific model: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK#support-mem-14
It does appear to be listed for Ryzen 2 CPUs.
Generally you'll probably be ok with any memory, but I suggest buying based on the QVL, that way you know you'll be getting memory that has been tested and known to work. You can find the QVL here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK
can i use a Dolby headset with this motherboard, WITHOUT a sound card? i have the Ryzen 7 2700x with this.
And also, for some reason i cant install the drivers for the asus dgx audio card. i went onto their website and it still doesnt work... so thats partly why im asking..
It's not with all AMD CPU coolers. The " Wraith Stealth" cooler, for example, has no lighting. This exact cooler is the "Wraith Spire". Check here: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/cpu-cooler-solution
Jarrod'sTech, Is it OK to use this B450 Tomahawk for Ryzen 7 2700X using Stock Cooler and then adjust base clock speed to 4.0Ghz for all cores, and use 16GB @ 3200Mhz RAM? We all know the base clock speed of 2700X is 3.7Ghz. Your help and suggestion is highly appreciated. Thanks
This board looks like a great budget solution for overclocking an APU with its Vsoc heat sink. Too bad it loses one M.2 slot and Display port vs. the Mortar with no Vsoc cooling. Kind of an important distinction from the other motherboards with 4 + 2 phase designs or less.
+Jarrod'sTech Its small. Its basically a Micro ATX with only 2 RAM dimm slots with 32 GB's of DDR 4 Modules. I am just waiting for the 1700x cpu to arrive. My nephew gave me a old GTX 650 1GB GDDR5 video card till I get a gpu for X-mas.
This is basically my 3rd rig that I built for to use when Im in my brother in law's condo since my 2nd rig is my gaming rig I use at home. Im hoping to get a 1070 or a 1080 Amp mini or Amp version since I have an amp extreme in my own personal rig for 4k gaming.
Guys im gonna be building my first ever gaming pc and my budget is just under $900
Ryzen 5 2600
Gtx 1060 6gb
B450 tomahawk motherboard
Adata 128gb ssd
2x4 ballistix ram
(I have a 1tb hard drive so thats why i never added it to the list)
My case is an Corsair carbide spec 0-4 which is $50
Mouse is an Logitech g402
Keyboard is an Redragon k552
That sounds pretty well rounded already I think, with the extra money I would see if it's at all possible to upgrade the GPU as that will give you the best improvement to gaming performance (given you've already got a decent CPU, dual channel memory, and an SSD).
Can somebody help me? I have r7 2700x with ASUS B350 and Kingston Predator 3200 Mhz, and i cant overlock it, memory works just on 2400mhz.
What do you think, if i improve only the MOBO for this one, can it handle 3200Mhz? :) Thank you!
Hmm sounds like the memory may not be able to run at higher speeds on that board, a newer B450 board may help out, as memory support is improved in the 2nd generation, but yeah definitely worth checking or trying to find out that has your memory on the QVL if possible for highest chance of compatibility. Ideally where possible you always want to use memory sticks of the same speeds/voltages/brand etc.
+Jarrod'sTech Actually i cant find that type of memory, on "Memory-QVL-for-AMD-Ryzen-2000-Series-Processors" - list, but it shows on the box, that that mobo can handle 3200 Mhz (With oc)
I just asked. Coz cheaper for me to upgrade the mobo than the RAM.
But what if i use both? I mean: I can find so much information on the internet on the sites, this mobo and r7 2700x works well that Gskill and Corsair... so I dont know what happens if i try to use it together with this Kingston RAM.Will it pull down the other one? I think this setup will not work properly :D
Thank you anyway! :)
+Jarrod'sTech I have bought 2700x with g.Skill 8GB*2 3000 Hz RAM. Wont do too much OC, might try basic ones. Confused between x470 Taichi or B450 boards. Any suggestions? Will need M2 NVM SSD for booting.
+Jarrod'sTech man, I'm gonna subscribing to your channel cuz you're the only youtuber who is replying to comments even though the video is weeks old.
So what should I buy: B450 tomahawk, X470 gaming plus or X470 aorus ultra gaming?
+Jarrod'sTech Thank you. Tomahawk is very expensive in my country (cheapest at147 USD) and A-Pro is at 115 USD. Gaming Plus is at 132 and it's hard to find reviews for both gaming plus and A-Pro. The pricing is a bit much for the most part that even a Ryzen 2600 is 200 USD here in Indonesia.
Just to clarify if you use the M.2 slot you wont be able to use any of the SATA connectors or just 2 of the 4 wont be usable. I know you said the 2 on the right but I was confused as to mean that the 2 pairs of connectors on the right side of the board or the 2 on the right side when the board is oriented as you showed.
Pro carbon is probably a bit better based on my experience with other verisons of that range, but I haven't tested the B450 one so can't actually say for certain, either way both should be pretty decent.
Yeah I think Micro ATX case will be fine, of course they still vary in size / airflow, but they are typically designed with using discrete graphics in mind, so I don't think that should be an issue for a future upgrade path.
+Jarrod'sTech im also panning to buy gpu but not now since the prices of gpu are still very high.
Another question. If i buy b450m mortar since I dont have gpu for now, is it okay to use a micro atx case? Or should i still need to buy standar atx case for better airflow?
The board should be perfectly capable of allowing you to overclock to 3.9GHz. Do you already have the 2600? Can you run it at 3.9GHz? If so all good. I haven't tested a 2600 so I don't know what speed a typical overclock looks like. If you're going to buy the CPU expecting a 3.9GHz overclock then I just wanted to note it will vary based on the CPU.
+Jarrod'sTech sorry for reasking this...I should have read further down before asking. Just so I am sure I am understanding: This (1) USB connection on the MB can serve multiple USB 3.1 ports on the case front header?
No, although the board has one front panel header I think two USB ports use that connection. For example you night have 2x USB slots in the front of your case that connect with one wire, that should be fine
No problem! I think that's a decent board, I used one recently in my AMD 2700 vs 2700X video, although it was borrowed for the purposes of testing the AMD CPUs so I didn't have time to do a full review video unfortunately!
+Jarrod'sTech Great thanks! Can you please make a review about the MSI X470 Gaming Plus and the Asrock X470 Master? I really don't know which motherboard should I get from these two or from the B450 Tomahawk and Mortar
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