AMD recently launched their new B450 chipset for the Ryzen 2 CPUs. I’ve got the MSI B450 Tomahawk motherboard here, so let’s take a look at all the features and help you decide if it’s worth buying for your PC.
US Pricing: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144189&cm_re=MSI_B450_Tomahawk-_-13-144-189-_-Product
AU Pricing: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/43275
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can i use a Dolby headset with this motherboard, WITHOUT a sound card? i have the Ryzen 7 2700x with this.
And also, for some reason i cant install the drivers for the asus dgx audio card. i went onto their website and it still doesnt work... so thats partly why im asking..
It's not with all AMD CPU coolers. The " Wraith Stealth" cooler, for example, has no lighting. This exact cooler is the "Wraith Spire". Check here: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/cpu-cooler-solution
Jarrod'sTech, Is it OK to use this B450 Tomahawk for Ryzen 7 2700X using Stock Cooler and then adjust base clock speed to 4.0Ghz for all cores, and use 16GB @ 3200Mhz RAM? We all know the base clock speed of 2700X is 3.7Ghz. Your help and suggestion is highly appreciated. Thanks
This board looks like a great budget solution for overclocking an APU with its Vsoc heat sink. Too bad it loses one M.2 slot and Display port vs. the Mortar with no Vsoc cooling. Kind of an important distinction from the other motherboards with 4 + 2 phase designs or less.
+Jarrod'sTech Its small. Its basically a Micro ATX with only 2 RAM dimm slots with 32 GB's of DDR 4 Modules. I am just waiting for the 1700x cpu to arrive. My nephew gave me a old GTX 650 1GB GDDR5 video card till I get a gpu for X-mas.
This is basically my 3rd rig that I built for to use when Im in my brother in law's condo since my 2nd rig is my gaming rig I use at home. Im hoping to get a 1070 or a 1080 Amp mini or Amp version since I have an amp extreme in my own personal rig for 4k gaming.
Guys im gonna be building my first ever gaming pc and my budget is just under $900
Ryzen 5 2600
Gtx 1060 6gb
B450 tomahawk motherboard
Adata 128gb ssd
2x4 ballistix ram
(I have a 1tb hard drive so thats why i never added it to the list)
My case is an Corsair carbide spec 0-4 which is $50
Mouse is an Logitech g402
Keyboard is an Redragon k552
That sounds pretty well rounded already I think, with the extra money I would see if it's at all possible to upgrade the GPU as that will give you the best improvement to gaming performance (given you've already got a decent CPU, dual channel memory, and an SSD).
Can somebody help me? I have r7 2700x with ASUS B350 and Kingston Predator 3200 Mhz, and i cant overlock it, memory works just on 2400mhz.
What do you think, if i improve only the MOBO for this one, can it handle 3200Mhz? :) Thank you!
Hmm sounds like the memory may not be able to run at higher speeds on that board, a newer B450 board may help out, as memory support is improved in the 2nd generation, but yeah definitely worth checking or trying to find out that has your memory on the QVL if possible for highest chance of compatibility. Ideally where possible you always want to use memory sticks of the same speeds/voltages/brand etc.
+Jarrod'sTech Actually i cant find that type of memory, on "Memory-QVL-for-AMD-Ryzen-2000-Series-Processors" - list, but it shows on the box, that that mobo can handle 3200 Mhz (With oc)
I just asked. Coz cheaper for me to upgrade the mobo than the RAM.
But what if i use both? I mean: I can find so much information on the internet on the sites, this mobo and r7 2700x works well that Gskill and Corsair... so I dont know what happens if i try to use it together with this Kingston RAM.Will it pull down the other one? I think this setup will not work properly :D
Thank you anyway! :)
+Jarrod'sTech I have bought 2700x with g.Skill 8GB*2 3000 Hz RAM. Wont do too much OC, might try basic ones. Confused between x470 Taichi or B450 boards. Any suggestions? Will need M2 NVM SSD for booting.
+Jarrod'sTech man, I'm gonna subscribing to your channel cuz you're the only youtuber who is replying to comments even though the video is weeks old.
So what should I buy: B450 tomahawk, X470 gaming plus or X470 aorus ultra gaming?
+Jarrod'sTech Thank you. Tomahawk is very expensive in my country (cheapest at147 USD) and A-Pro is at 115 USD. Gaming Plus is at 132 and it's hard to find reviews for both gaming plus and A-Pro. The pricing is a bit much for the most part that even a Ryzen 2600 is 200 USD here in Indonesia.
Just to clarify if you use the M.2 slot you wont be able to use any of the SATA connectors or just 2 of the 4 wont be usable. I know you said the 2 on the right but I was confused as to mean that the 2 pairs of connectors on the right side of the board or the 2 on the right side when the board is oriented as you showed.
Pro carbon is probably a bit better based on my experience with other verisons of that range, but I haven't tested the B450 one so can't actually say for certain, either way both should be pretty decent.
Yeah I think Micro ATX case will be fine, of course they still vary in size / airflow, but they are typically designed with using discrete graphics in mind, so I don't think that should be an issue for a future upgrade path.
+Jarrod'sTech im also panning to buy gpu but not now since the prices of gpu are still very high.
Another question. If i buy b450m mortar since I dont have gpu for now, is it okay to use a micro atx case? Or should i still need to buy standar atx case for better airflow?
The board should be perfectly capable of allowing you to overclock to 3.9GHz. Do you already have the 2600? Can you run it at 3.9GHz? If so all good. I haven't tested a 2600 so I don't know what speed a typical overclock looks like. If you're going to buy the CPU expecting a 3.9GHz overclock then I just wanted to note it will vary based on the CPU.
+Jarrod'sTech sorry for reasking this...I should have read further down before asking. Just so I am sure I am understanding: This (1) USB connection on the MB can serve multiple USB 3.1 ports on the case front header?
No, although the board has one front panel header I think two USB ports use that connection. For example you night have 2x USB slots in the front of your case that connect with one wire, that should be fine
No problem! I think that's a decent board, I used one recently in my AMD 2700 vs 2700X video, although it was borrowed for the purposes of testing the AMD CPUs so I didn't have time to do a full review video unfortunately!
+Jarrod'sTech Great thanks! Can you please make a review about the MSI X470 Gaming Plus and the Asrock X470 Master? I really don't know which motherboard should I get from these two or from the B450 Tomahawk and Mortar
Jarrod what's your opinion on the Eluktronics Mech-15 G2?? Haven't found that much info but the specs looks amazing and have heard Eluktronics are pretty well build and have a great finish, for the price it just seems like the best you can get. Thanks and have a great day!!
How can someone call this a "review" if they are just, and nothing more, reading the specs of the Motherboard a nothing more?
Don't get me wrong, this a "good" critic, but I heard no review about the MB itself, the only things you added are some of your results but without showing how you achieved, your methodology and so on:
1. I updated the bios(around 4:00)
2. That you used RAM at 3466
3. That you managed to put his 2700 at 4.0 GHz
3.5 Telling that you did not go any further in it with extra testing
4. And an image from a thermal camera
This IS a review, NOT a critic. He is reviewing the products' attributes/ specs, not critically analyzing them giving the pros and cons. He is not injecting his personal and thereby subjective opinion (which the internet i so rife with) <---see what I did there?
Thanks for the feedback, while I can see why that information would be useful you have to admit for most people looking for a board they probably wouldn't be interested, I don't think I'm interested anyway making detailed videos going through BIOS options in any case, I'd probably need some kind of capture card to record that properly though. As for the rest as mentioned I have a lot to learn about VRM and the specifics, so I don't talk about what I don't understand in depth. I am interested in learning more though.
I personally met Buildzoid, and I love his work(I work with one of the "OC webinar" even though I do not know the exact name of the webinar)
Things that, in my opinion, need to be told are this
-) VRM setup, if it's really how it is displayed and what kind of VRM they are using(for example, most of the time the producers tell that it's a 20(number) VRM setup when they are just number/2 VRM with a doubler and it's really different)
-) BIOS, you will spend so much time in it(to be honest is the only way you speak with it) you have to tell if it's well-made bios and so on(does it have a good support for feature needed for MoBo such as postcode, more bios, etc.?
-) VRM cooling and other cooling capacities: most of the boards suck at cooling your VRM and chipset, people have to know it
Yes, I proceed to write down a list of stuff that, sadly, had one problem, you have not shown your testing nor its methodology.
Now, obv I can write down and show(from HWinfo e.g.) that my CPU runs at x.xx GHz and RAM at x.xxx GHz, but if I do not show how I achieved them what's the point? ;)
For the rest, the video is well made
-) The voice is good
-) The music is not too loud(and trust, not all regulate in a good way music, sounds and voices)
-) The quality is good and the work on it(in terms of video making) it's good too
Keep the work good :)
Your comment might be more useful if you included what you thought it was missing and what you wanted to see, that way I could improve it in the future 😉 I did like how you said nothing more was done then proceeded to list a bunch of stuff though 😁 to be fair it's a board, there's only so much you can discuss without knowing finer details about electronics, which I do not, and honestly 95% of people searching for one probably would not understand anyway - there are already far better channels for that content, like Buildzoid's actually hardcore overclocking channel, I recommend it if you want more in depth details: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrwObTfqv8u1KO7Fgk-FXHQ
I do like the idea of the BIOS flashback. Can even be done without a CPU, on most boards. Good shot you got there of the I/O shield. Was good to see the BIOS flashback button is recessed a little, preventing accidental use. Buildzoid had a look at the B450's as well. And of course it was mainly focused on the VRM's! Definitely worth a look though. Also did another interesting video about sub-$150 boards (Link below)
I just had a look at the board on NewEgg.com from your link. $99 USD. Then I went to the NewEgg.ca. $149 CAD. So I feel your pain, when you have to pay $189 AUD! Always a little depressing when you have to multiply the cost by 1.5 - 2! LOL!
Nice review Jarrod. And great production as always! Hope to see more hardware reviews and testing. And almost at 30K subs! Good for you bud!
Have a great day!
Thanks! A few more various hardware videos on the way 😎 Yeah an accidental press would be difficult, I had to get in with my finger nail to press it 😛 Nice! I've watched some of his videos, he really knows his stuff.
Again nice review, thanks! I think MSI could put 2 pcie in this one but it seems they think you have to use usb Wifi adapter. I still have old Asus Xonar Dx sound card I would use with that motherboard.
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