The Acer Predator Helios 300 is a well priced gaming laptop with great specs, my unit has an Intel i7-8750H CPU and Nvidia 1060 6GB graphics, so let’s get into the benchmarks see how well it performs in 15 different games!
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Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS:GO)
PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG)
Assassin's Creed Origins
Shadow of War
The Witcher 3
Watch Dogs 2
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege
Far Cry 5
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Everyone uses different settings, that's why I test at all available setting presets, easy to reproduce compared to me going through and manually setting a whole screen if settings and trying to explain what I'm using and why. Hope the Helios 300 goes well!
So I literally just got this laptop today and I put Overwatch at max settings and it ran just fine the first time. But now it's only running at 10 fps at the same settings. Anyone know what the hell is going on? Also every other game runs just fine
+Jarrod'sTech i did some calculation (see link) base on +8.55% FPS via dual channel effect when gaming at max level. the Aero 15x still perform at average -2fps or only +6% FPS, across 12 games. I think its ok to call them a disappointing draw for Aero 15x.
Hmm strange, not sure what version of HDMI that would be if it's a 1080p monitor, according to this if 120Hz is supported 144 should be too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video
Can you please help me. Which one with i should go.
Asus Rog zephyrus GM501?
Hp omen 1070?
Acer helios 500?
I want to purchase a good gaming laptop. But confused and havent enough info about them.
I've got detailed reviews on most of those on the channel:
ASUS Zephyrus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lObIbYTK-RM
Dell G7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q67IRsQhIDo&t=17s
Acer Helios 500: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqSNcl6ik9Q
MSI GS65: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVC5M1Tue_k
Unfortunately HP have never responded to me so I am not able to get review units. Out of those I'd expect the Zephyrus or Helios 500 to perform best given they are available with 1070 graphics. The Helios is much thicker but also cooling, and a 17" laptop compared to 15" on the ASUS.
i just got this laptop but i'm getting verly low fps compared to the benchmarks. in fortnite i get around 80 to 120 regardless of the quality level. its the same in other games as well(dota 2 ~80-10fps low to ultra, csgo ~ 100 - 140 fps). i updated the nvidia as well as intel drivers, but no change. please help.
i realize there will be differences in fps. but shouldn't it increase when i lower the settings? i'm getting no changes in fps even when i lower the settings. in cs go i get the same 100-140 fps even when i lower the resoultion and play on low settings(other games too). i've checked vsync it's off as well. don;t know what the problem is..
There will be differences unless you run the same tests as me, in csgo I tested using the fps Benchmark, have you tried that rather than measuring actual game play? Stuff like that like fortnite too will vary depending on what other players are doing and where you are in the game etc so hard to get a one size fits all frame rate unfortunately
Yeah, the i5-8300h is still a great option for games in a laptop, same all core turbo speed as the i7 but less cores, though for many games four is plenty. I'll be doing a comparison between them both in the future
The Zephyrus is thinner, more expensive, available with better specs, and runs cooler without throttling in my own testing. It's also got an RGB keyboard, higher quality screen, and has a thunderbolt port but no ethernet port.
They're pretty close, but desktop is better, to be honest it's more a matter of whether or not you want a laptop or desktop rather than the difference between each 1060, that's more important than the small performance difference.
Just ordered the i7 8750h 16gb of ram model with the 144hz and 1060. Was the best deal for the specs i wanted almost went with a dell g7 and hp envy. But both models in my price range had 60hz panels and after playing on a 1080p 120hz and 1440p 144hz im not going back to 60. Would love to have g-sync but the cheapest laptop i could find with that was around 1400-1500. Picked the acer up for 1100 seems great for a 6 core i7 16gb’s of ram and a 1060. It only came with a 256 ssd but i have a 2tb sshd laying around I’m gonna throw in. Not sure if i have one 16 or 2 8gb ram sticks. If i have one guess I’m upgrading to 32 because i want dual channel.
Can you do a comparison of this with asus rog gu501gm. It has the same specs but with TB3. I saw that even if it has the same 1060 6gb nonMQ, rog is still underperforming but cant quite trust that because of lack reviews of gu501gm , its being overshadowed by the zephyrus m. Thanks
When you do the undervolt can you
Test fortnite framerates not at Max settings but at "gamer" settings with most things turned down or off except for maxing view distance and textures
Most reviews only test at low mid epic and high even though if your competitive you wouldn't play at those settings exactly
I can't, I've already sent the laptop back after testing, still a few more Helios 300 videos to come though. While I understand people may not actually play at the templates settings testing with these makes it easier to compare rather than explaining all the random customisations that I've made.
mine has the same config ,except it came with a 16gb 2400mhz single channel ram, getting low gpu use n low minimums in cpu heavy games , will adding another 16 gb @2400 for dual channel give better results like ur benchmarks?
I also had DDR4-2666 memory so it will be a little faster, but yes there should be a fairly big jump forward going from single channel to dual channel memory, I've covered this in detail here if you want to get an idea of the performance differences to expect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_aPaj5QkmM
But. Does it need gsync? I have a 1080ti pc and when I do benchmarking I turn off gsync. The couple times I forgot to turn it back on I noticed almost immediately. Am I spoiled forever now? Can I even be bothered with a display that doesn’t use gsync? My hardware will always have a nvidia gpu for the foreseeable future.
I don't mind the tearing myself but yeah I guess it's subjective, the first time I used G-Sync I only noticed the difference when turning it off. I think it's less noticeable when you're running at higher frame rates though, and as the laptop has a 144Hz screen then it may be less of an issue to not have G-Sync.
Doesn't it feel euphoric when you find the search results for a very specific query? Thanks Jarrod!! I wanted to know how Rainbow Six performs on this beast of a machine as I am eagerly waiting for it to arrive!!
I am considering buying this soon, if possible could you please test VR on this so I know overall how it may run. Also, for a simmilar price is there anything better? TBH I don't really care that it's thick. Obviously thinner is better but thicc boi is worth it when you getting such good performance.
How would I test VR without owning any VR equipment? Not being rude, legitimately curious because I don't know much about it. I always test VRMark but that's about all I can really do. I sent the laptop back today, but the full review video that will come out in a few days has those results and more benchmarks outside of gaming so I hope that helps.
Jarrod!! please let me know when you'll review the Metabox pa70 with the new processor, I swear I'm waiting for your review with temperatures and performance before buying it! I need also to know if they fixed the throttling issues it had because of the clevo control center bug. thanks a lot mate, keep up posting, your reviews are the best!! cheers
I really want to review their stuff, I've been reaching out to them for months with different methods, unfortunately no luck so far as no one has gotten back to me regarding borrowing a review unit, I'll keep trying but for now I just have no way of getting a laptop from them.
The i5 vs i7 is on my list of things to do, as for the TUF I have one with the i7 but not sure if ASUS plan on sending me an i5 model, really depends on what they have available for review, I want to try and get the new TUF FX505 though so maybe that will have those specs.
For gaming? I'd get the i5/1060, in most games better graphics will be more important and give you a bigger boost in performance that the CPU. It's also worth considering that the differences between the CPUs is small, both have the same 3.9GHz all core turbo speed, the i7 only has a 100MHz faster single core turbo, and the 2 extra cores of the i7 probably won't help you out in most current games, the i5 is a great choice and actually performs better than last generation's i7-7700HQ.
Hey Jarrod I don't expect you to read this but I'm going to ask anyway. I recently bought a laptop with a 1080p 60hz display. I also have a monitor with those same specs. If I were to connect my laptop to my monitor would I see a dip In performance? The internet is very confusing on this. I'm not really a genius about this stuff unlike you. Sorry for taking your time!
Hey, no I don't think so, you should be able to attach an external monitor using the HDMI port, I can't imagine why this would lower performance, that said I haven't explicitly compared the two so can't say that there is no difference. I assume the HDMI port is wired to the Nvidia graphics rather than the Intel graphics so should be fine.
I'm working on comparing the Helios 300 against the Dell G series at the moment in an upcoming video, the Dell laptops tend to have better battery, Thunderbolt port for eGPU support and better build quality, while the Helios performs better in games and is available with a higher refresh rate panel.
+Jarrod'sTech i forgot to ask about this.. does the i5 8300h has the same sRGB % as the i7 8th gen one? because i watched some other helios reviews i just noticed that they improved the color accuracy on the 2018 model but the one on the review is the i7 8th gen one but does the i5 8th has the same sRGB %% too? as i remember the old version has only like 65% sRGB and the 2018 model (the i7 8th gen 144hz) has like 90+% sRGB
well it's ok tho 60hz is fine as hell for me but i also hope that they fixed the thermals this time because lots of people complaining about the cpu getting hot af on the older version some people said it exceeded 100 °c
It probably will a little, although to be honest I don't think it will be that much. Both CPUs have the same 3.9GHz all core turbo speed, and the single core boost of the 8300H is only 100MHz above the 8750H, and those extra two cores wont help too much in most games.
Hi there, Jarrod. Great video!
This machine is an excellent choice in the mid+ tier, imo. And you are right: 1060 is simply perfect to run games at 60 FPS; I don't see the 144HZ panel as an advantage here.
I think I said it before: Acer is doing a damn fine job with Predator line, offering solid machines. And with the upcoming Triton 900 and its unique screen design, it will give the competition a run for their money.
Have a good one, mate.
The games that need higher refresh rates I often run with details, like shadow, off. Not just for performance, it makes enemies easier to see. So with the 144hz display I can get the high refresh rate for twitch shooters and still get 30-60 FPS on more story based games on high-max settings. So 144hz still makes sense here for me. Even though it would be better served with a 1070. Fortnite at 60fps? Never again 👊
Thanks! Yeah it seems like a good sweet spot for price/performance in a laptop. I don't personally see the 144Hz panel as a major advantage either, I'd want the 1070 for the games I play, but a lot of people just play CSGO/Fortnite and those would be fine, really depends on the person and what they play on doing I guess, either way a good option over say the Dell G series which doesn't have it at all.
I know you get a lot of requests, but I’d love to see you cover the HP Omen 15 with 1070 max-q. There aren’t many reviews of it and none have the 1070 max-q variant. It’s cheaper than the likes of the Razer Blade 15 and gs65 and goes on sale a lot. I think anyone that likes something along the lines of the Helios 300 would be interested in it.
Keep up the good work man.
Thanks! I really want to review their stuff, I've been reaching out to them for months with different methods, unfortunately no luck so far as no one has gotten back to me regarding borrowing a review unit, I'll keep trying but for now I just have no way of getting a laptop from them.
Nice review as always. Acer predator is best price gaming laptop in India, I'm talking about 1050ti version...1060 as usual..... is way Overpriced here.
Waiting for your review of Asus Rog Strix GL503GE with 1050ti 😚
I'm not, I've been reaching out to them for months to try and get their laptops for review, but I've never had any replies, not sure if they're ignoring me because I'm small or maybe they are just difficult to contact, I really want to review their Omen laptops. I have the same issue with Lenovo too.
I haven't used the HP Omen laptops yet so can't really comment, I am actually working on a comparison video with the Helios 300 and Dell G5 at the moment though so once I go through the differences in detail I'll cover my thoughts in that video. If I'm able to get an Omen laptop I'll do the same with those too.
Ah thanks for clearing that up. And what about your top pick from the laptops of this price range? HP Omen 17 2018, Dell G7 etc. Have my eyes on the Omen right now because of the ports and 144hz g-sync panel.
That's good! Yeah was a bit sad to see the two USB 2.0 ports but not a major downside for gamers looking for a laptop I don't think. Haha I didn't lie, my laptop is a 2012 13" Macbook 😛 all others featured on the channel are borrowed for the review.
It's Cool. Temperatures are about 41-81°C of CPU and 40-69° C of GPU. The Predator Sence Software really helps for overclock. Fans get noisy on 6000 rpm. I wish it should have 2 USB 3.0 for transferring between HDDs. BIOS Time is 4.1 secs. New 2010 version has Aluminum body, Dolby Audio which are great fixes. And I told u I have a laptop from 2009 which was a lie ( U also lied saying u have one from 2013 EDIT: 2012 )
Thanks! I could do a comparison but I don't know if it would be valuable, I don't think I could get the old model again to actually do proper side by side, I'd have to use the video I took almost a year ago of the 7th gen model and the edit it in side by side. That's fine, but visually they're basically the same, you'd want to see the differences in gaming performance with the new 8th gen CPU, but the game data I have would be about 10 months outdated and not valid so I can't really use it, so yeah to do that would really depend on whether or not they want to send me the same model that I've already looked at in the past.
I'd like to but I'm not sure how to get the HP laptop, I've been reaching out to them for months now to try and get review units but no one has replied back to me yet, so at this point I'm not able to get my hands on any for testing, hopefully that changes in the future though.
Nice! I've been trying to get that and a few of the other MSI laptops with similar specs but no luck so far unfortunately, I'll keep trying! I want to get the GP63 and GL63, I've got the GE63 at the moment.
I'm a bit confused, I thought you wanted to see how the Helios 300 performs in terms of temperatures? If so that video will be out next week. The full review video is scheduled for the 16th which will have all information.
They may not have it available, and to be honest, a full review takes days worth of effort and the only difference will be in gaming performance/battery life so probably not worth spending the time on it, maybe just a quick comparison in game performance which would still take a day to make, but yeah it entirely depends on what specced laptops they have available and what can be sent out to me.
+Adarsh Mp i see, i don't quite sure but cracks is more to pirate game/or don't have license of that game instead to try solve a game bug also in my opinion putting Crack may cause game to be unstable rather than using the original file of that game so is better to give a time to dev to fix the game problem
+Jarrod'sTech anyway forgot to tell you i have just purchased a ram that i tell you before and it work flawlessly, and you right it increase my performance when gaming.. TQ for helping me back then, i really appreciate it 😁 GAME MODE ON 🎮
For some reason it is pretty satisfying to watch an actual machine run stuff. Tech-porn I guess. Thanks for the vid. Oh, and by the way, would be nice to see how well a machine performs under an actual 2-3 hours gaming session with all those average/min/max fps and temps. Aaand another idea for a video: BFV beta-test gameplay on laptops with 10xx - would be interesting to see that since BFV supports newer 20xx GPUs
Of course there's no need in extensive gameplays but a minute or two of highlights after a longer gaming session would be nice to maybe see some dips in fps. I think this would help me imagine using the laptop myself
Cheers, yeah I try to cover that information in the full review / detailed thermal testing (coming in a few days). It takes me about 6 hours to get all of the temperature testing done, I test at many different settings but also leave it going continually under load the whole time so it should be worst case. Not really sure how useful game play would be when the video itself is capped at 30 FPS though, would you even be able to see anything useful?
*crimestatistics* That’s a lie and it’s clear you don’t own one or even seen one in person. The GS65 is a very nicely built laptop. Very clean and robust. It’s not as heavy duty or thick as the others, but that’s why it’s cheaper.
Don’t go around telling people something has build quality just because you read it somewhere. That doesn’t help anyone.
Thanks! Personally I'd pick the Aero, I'm still considering buying it, mainly because it's the only one with an SD card slot which is critical for me as I need it for video editing. Otherwise for gaming I'd probably go the GS65, same specs all things considered and if I was playing games I wouldn't be using battery (if I recall it has the lowest of them all) so it's cheaper for same specs, but I plan on doing more comparison videos between all those models, I just need time to get them done.
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